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	<title>Comentários em: A violência e selvajaria da extrema-esquerda em Copenhaga</title>
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		<title>Por: Patricia M.</title>
		<link>http://oinsurgente.org/2007/03/07/a-violencia-e-selvajaria-da-extrema-esquerda-em-copenhaga/#comment-18134</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patricia M.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ringthane confirmou minhas suspeitas. Um bando de desocupados desordeiros. Nada alem disso. Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ringthane confirmou minhas suspeitas. Um bando de desocupados desordeiros. Nada alem disso. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>Por: Ringthane</title>
		<link>http://oinsurgente.org/2007/03/07/a-violencia-e-selvajaria-da-extrema-esquerda-em-copenhaga/#comment-18135</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ringthane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vinda da Dinamarca recebi esta explicação:

Empty house owned by the city council in Copenhagen. Squatters arrive at the house and the city council lends them the house. A couple of years later the city council decides the house is unfit for occupation and offers a new place for the squatters; yes - now squatters can hardly be called that. Anyway, they refuse to leave the house and the house is sold to an independent contractor. This contractor sells the house to a religious sect. They ask the occupants to leave the house, that is refused, the sect takes the case to the courts, win (easily), the case is appealed (yes!) and the sect wins again. It is now 6 years since they bought the house. They then ask the police (or rather, a special branch of the judicial system, which then asks the police since the case has been decided) to clear the house.

Now I am no fan of religious sects and this one is no exception. But I do think the law protects all...

So what happens is pretty standard. The occupants get hold of masonry blocks, bricks, toilets, molotovcocktails, ready to throw them at the police. Most of this is placed on the roof of the building, so it can get the velocity of three floors as well, making sure someone will get hurt at the other end.

Meanwhile a new organisation is founded; &quot;Parents against policebrutality&quot;. They demonstrate, regularly.

One night there is a big party in the house. It ends around 3 a.m. At 7 a.m. the police arrive. In this way: Two cranes are driving down the roads, each with a cargocontainer, converging on the house. When they reach the house the cranes swing over and position the containers outside windows on the first and second floor. At the same time a helicopter arrive above the house. From the helicopter and the containers police enter the house; all the weaponry on the roof are captured and waterhoses from the cranes pumps (cold) water into the house.

Physical harm? One person has a scrabe, perhaps on the elbow. 35 occupants arrested and removed from the house. All over in twenty minutes.

Then the violence begins, but as I see it, this is standard-anti-establishment-we-want-to-hurt-other-people hoodlums. A number of people who should know better get involved but when bricks are flying, you are either a violent hooligan or will get hurt. The police seems to have done their work with a minimal use of force, which everyone (except the beforementioned organisation) agrees.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vinda da Dinamarca recebi esta explicação:</p>
<p>Empty house owned by the city council in Copenhagen. Squatters arrive at the house and the city council lends them the house. A couple of years later the city council decides the house is unfit for occupation and offers a new place for the squatters; yes &#8211; now squatters can hardly be called that. Anyway, they refuse to leave the house and the house is sold to an independent contractor. This contractor sells the house to a religious sect. They ask the occupants to leave the house, that is refused, the sect takes the case to the courts, win (easily), the case is appealed (yes!) and the sect wins again. It is now 6 years since they bought the house. They then ask the police (or rather, a special branch of the judicial system, which then asks the police since the case has been decided) to clear the house.</p>
<p>Now I am no fan of religious sects and this one is no exception. But I do think the law protects all&#8230;</p>
<p>So what happens is pretty standard. The occupants get hold of masonry blocks, bricks, toilets, molotovcocktails, ready to throw them at the police. Most of this is placed on the roof of the building, so it can get the velocity of three floors as well, making sure someone will get hurt at the other end.</p>
<p>Meanwhile a new organisation is founded; &#8220;Parents against policebrutality&#8221;. They demonstrate, regularly.</p>
<p>One night there is a big party in the house. It ends around 3 a.m. At 7 a.m. the police arrive. In this way: Two cranes are driving down the roads, each with a cargocontainer, converging on the house. When they reach the house the cranes swing over and position the containers outside windows on the first and second floor. At the same time a helicopter arrive above the house. From the helicopter and the containers police enter the house; all the weaponry on the roof are captured and waterhoses from the cranes pumps (cold) water into the house.</p>
<p>Physical harm? One person has a scrabe, perhaps on the elbow. 35 occupants arrested and removed from the house. All over in twenty minutes.</p>
<p>Then the violence begins, but as I see it, this is standard-anti-establishment-we-want-to-hurt-other-people hoodlums. A number of people who should know better get involved but when bricks are flying, you are either a violent hooligan or will get hurt. The police seems to have done their work with a minimal use of force, which everyone (except the beforementioned organisation) agrees.</p>
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		<title>Por: Patricia M.</title>
		<link>http://oinsurgente.org/2007/03/07/a-violencia-e-selvajaria-da-extrema-esquerda-em-copenhaga/#comment-18136</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patricia M.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Motivacoes ideologicas? Pelo que entendi do conflito inteiro, os caras nao passam de vagabundos desocupados, tipicos europeus que nao querem trabalhar e querem viver as custas dos outros. Estou errada? Se sim, me corrijam...

Se estivessem trabalhando, nao estavam por ai botando fogo e fazendo arruaca... O estado social europeu eh um estado falido.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Motivacoes ideologicas? Pelo que entendi do conflito inteiro, os caras nao passam de vagabundos desocupados, tipicos europeus que nao querem trabalhar e querem viver as custas dos outros. Estou errada? Se sim, me corrijam&#8230;</p>
<p>Se estivessem trabalhando, nao estavam por ai botando fogo e fazendo arruaca&#8230; O estado social europeu eh um estado falido.</p>
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		<title>Por: nuno nasoni</title>
		<link>http://oinsurgente.org/2007/03/07/a-violencia-e-selvajaria-da-extrema-esquerda-em-copenhaga/#comment-18142</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nuno nasoni]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Já vi algumas reportagens sobre os confrontos na televisão, e ainda não tinha percebido quais as suas causas. Tratando-se de um conflito originado pela extrema-esquerda, apenas são mostradas imagens de violência e é feita a referência à participação de militantes oriundos da Alemanha. Sem a ajuda da blogosfera, nunca teria obtido qualquer informação sobre as motivações ideológicas na origem dos distúrbios. A censura continua bem viva...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Já vi algumas reportagens sobre os confrontos na televisão, e ainda não tinha percebido quais as suas causas. Tratando-se de um conflito originado pela extrema-esquerda, apenas são mostradas imagens de violência e é feita a referência à participação de militantes oriundos da Alemanha. Sem a ajuda da blogosfera, nunca teria obtido qualquer informação sobre as motivações ideológicas na origem dos distúrbios. A censura continua bem viva&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Por: À Vontade do Freguês :: All is relative :: March :: 2007</title>
		<link>http://oinsurgente.org/2007/03/07/a-violencia-e-selvajaria-da-extrema-esquerda-em-copenhaga/#comment-18141</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[À Vontade do Freguês :: All is relative :: March :: 2007]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] É um exercício interessante imaginar o que diriam os media e que tipo de medidas seriam defendidas... [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] É um exercício interessante imaginar o que diriam os media e que tipo de medidas seriam defendidas&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>Por: Frederico</title>
		<link>http://oinsurgente.org/2007/03/07/a-violencia-e-selvajaria-da-extrema-esquerda-em-copenhaga/#comment-18138</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frederico]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Caro André Azevedo Alves,
A ideia que tem da extrema esquerda está atrasada 30 anos.
As sociedades evoluem e as ideologias da esquerda também. Atrevo-me até a dizer que os famosos okupas que fizeram sorrir a &quot;extrema-esquerda&quot; na década de 70 andam hoje por partidos de poder, com destaque até para o PSD.
A &quot;extrema-esquerda&quot; de hoje não faz amigos entre okupas, mas antes entre aqueles que compreendem e defendem um equilibrio entre rendimentos do trabalho e capital.
Por isso, talvez encontre hoje mais empreendedores na esquerda do que na direita portuguesa.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caro André Azevedo Alves,<br />
A ideia que tem da extrema esquerda está atrasada 30 anos.<br />
As sociedades evoluem e as ideologias da esquerda também. Atrevo-me até a dizer que os famosos okupas que fizeram sorrir a &#8220;extrema-esquerda&#8221; na década de 70 andam hoje por partidos de poder, com destaque até para o PSD.<br />
A &#8220;extrema-esquerda&#8221; de hoje não faz amigos entre okupas, mas antes entre aqueles que compreendem e defendem um equilibrio entre rendimentos do trabalho e capital.<br />
Por isso, talvez encontre hoje mais empreendedores na esquerda do que na direita portuguesa.</p>
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		<title>Por: Bêbado</title>
		<link>http://oinsurgente.org/2007/03/07/a-violencia-e-selvajaria-da-extrema-esquerda-em-copenhaga/#comment-18137</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bêbado]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Enqto vocês da extrema-direita, nos últimos 2 anos em Portugal, mataram e feriram mais do que os vândalos Dinamarqueses.&quot;

ó compadre, antes de ir para os copos faça como eu e tome um KGB.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Enqto vocês da extrema-direita, nos últimos 2 anos em Portugal, mataram e feriram mais do que os vândalos Dinamarqueses.&#8221;</p>
<p>ó compadre, antes de ir para os copos faça como eu e tome um KGB.</p>
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		<title>Por: TP</title>
		<link>http://oinsurgente.org/2007/03/07/a-violencia-e-selvajaria-da-extrema-esquerda-em-copenhaga/#comment-18140</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Qto mortos nos confrontos? Pois é, nenhum!
Enqto vocês da extrema-direita, nos últimos 2 anos em Portugal, mataram e feriram mais do que os vândalos Dinamarqueses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Qto mortos nos confrontos? Pois é, nenhum!<br />
Enqto vocês da extrema-direita, nos últimos 2 anos em Portugal, mataram e feriram mais do que os vândalos Dinamarqueses.</p>
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		<title>Por: Insano</title>
		<link>http://oinsurgente.org/2007/03/07/a-violencia-e-selvajaria-da-extrema-esquerda-em-copenhaga/#comment-18139</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Insano]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 13:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pena que os neo-nazis &quot;tão do agrado&quot; da direita portuguesa não consigam criar nada para criar empatia...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pena que os neo-nazis &#8220;tão do agrado&#8221; da direita portuguesa não consigam criar nada para criar empatia&#8230;</p>
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